Comments on: It’s not all high tech gadgets and hot chicks… http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/2008/10/07/its-not-all-high-tech-gadgets-and-hot-chicks/ Taming the chaos in my brain one post at a time Tue, 01 Jun 2010 20:52:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Roger http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/2008/10/07/its-not-all-high-tech-gadgets-and-hot-chicks/comment-page-1/#comment-2424 Roger Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:14:08 +0000 http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/blog/2008/10/07/547#comment-2424 Actually, Cheney came to intensely distrust the CIA because of the bullshit it pulled while he was SecDef. You really need to read the book. The last two chapters deal with the intelligence failures over Iraq and Tenet's big mistake. Basically, there was a stream of defectors who knew what the CIA wanted to hear and basically lied. I suspect that if it were solely up to Cheney, assumptions about Iraq might have been a bit different. Actually, Cheney came to intensely distrust the CIA because of the bullshit it pulled while he was SecDef. You really need to read the book. The last two chapters deal with the intelligence failures over Iraq and Tenet’s big mistake. Basically, there was a stream of defectors who knew what the CIA wanted to hear and basically lied.

I suspect that if it were solely up to Cheney, assumptions about Iraq might have been a bit different.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/2008/10/07/its-not-all-high-tech-gadgets-and-hot-chicks/comment-page-1/#comment-2423 Anonymous Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:10:24 +0000 http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/blog/2008/10/07/547#comment-2423 Oh I was just trying to connect the dots going back to the Ford administration with Rumsfeld & Cheney I guess. Cheney having later went on to preside over the Gulf War as 41's Secretary of Defense of course. I know guilt that by association is a weak case to make but I figured since it worked for Dick Cheney to make a case for pre-emptive war in Iraq (CIA intel re: al qaeda & sadaam ties) then why not? ;) I will give him credit for questioning CIA intel on WMD in Iraq though. Oh I was just trying to connect the dots going back to the Ford administration with Rumsfeld & Cheney I guess. Cheney having later went on to preside over the Gulf War as 41′s Secretary of Defense of course.

I know guilt that by association is a weak case to make but I figured since it worked for Dick Cheney to make a case for pre-emptive war in Iraq (CIA intel re: al qaeda & sadaam ties) then why not? ;)

I will give him credit for questioning CIA intel on WMD in Iraq though.

]]> By: Roger http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/2008/10/07/its-not-all-high-tech-gadgets-and-hot-chicks/comment-page-1/#comment-2422 Roger Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:55:23 +0000 http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/blog/2008/10/07/547#comment-2422 But what does Bush 41 have anything to do with anything? But what does Bush 41 have anything to do with anything?

]]> By: Roger http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/2008/10/07/its-not-all-high-tech-gadgets-and-hot-chicks/comment-page-1/#comment-2421 Roger Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:54:04 +0000 http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/blog/2008/10/07/547#comment-2421 He was Director of Intelligence under Ford. Carter replaced him with Stansfield Turner. Bush was fairly popular at the CIA, mainly because he did his best to support the people in the field. He was Director of Intelligence under Ford. Carter replaced him with Stansfield Turner.

Bush was fairly popular at the CIA, mainly because he did his best to support the people in the field.

]]> By: Paul http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/2008/10/07/its-not-all-high-tech-gadgets-and-hot-chicks/comment-page-1/#comment-2399 Paul Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:21:05 +0000 http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/blog/2008/10/07/547#comment-2399 Wait a minute, wasn't George H.W. Bush director of the CIA during the Carter administration? hmmm Wait a minute, wasn’t George H.W. Bush director of the CIA during the Carter administration? hmmm

]]> By: Roger http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/2008/10/07/its-not-all-high-tech-gadgets-and-hot-chicks/comment-page-1/#comment-2398 Roger Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:41:03 +0000 http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/blog/2008/10/07/547#comment-2398 The CIA repeatedly lied to that committee, with Casey the worst offender. If any blame can be laid at the feet of Congress, it is that they didn't call 'bullshit' more often. In fact, based on his experiences as Secretary of Defence, Dick Cheney did not and does not trust the CIA. The CIA repeatedly lied to that committee, with Casey the worst offender. If any blame can be laid at the feet of Congress, it is that they didn’t call ‘bullshit’ more often.

In fact, based on his experiences as Secretary of Defence, Dick Cheney did not and does not trust the CIA.

]]> By: Paul http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/2008/10/07/its-not-all-high-tech-gadgets-and-hot-chicks/comment-page-1/#comment-2372 Paul Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:12:43 +0000 http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/blog/2008/10/07/547#comment-2372 You're forgetting to mention that CIA is also accountable to Congress via the Senate 'Select Committee on Intelligence' and the House 'Permanent Select Committee' . One thing is for sure, there's lots of blame to spread around for it's failures. Who would dare to expect more from our our federal govt. though? You’re forgetting to mention that CIA is also accountable to Congress via the Senate ‘Select Committee on Intelligence’ and the House ‘Permanent Select Committee’ .

One thing is for sure, there’s lots of blame to spread around for it’s failures.
Who would dare to expect more from our our federal govt. though?

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