Comments on: Pet Peeve http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/2006/11/09/pet-peeve/ Taming the chaos in my brain one post at a time Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:50:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Paul http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/2006/11/09/pet-peeve/comment-page-1/#comment-1115 Paul Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:47:16 +0000 http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/blog/2006/11/09/419#comment-1115 Yes - it's probably far too late for that. The seed has been planted and neither side will ever give up. Yes – it’s probably far too late for that. The seed has been planted and neither side will ever give up.

]]> By: Roger http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/2006/11/09/pet-peeve/comment-page-1/#comment-1114 Roger Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:36:31 +0000 http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/blog/2006/11/09/419#comment-1114 Of course, we need to NOT be dependent on foreign oil. I've felt that was the logical course of action for years, but it we actually suceed in doing that, it will not stop terrorism. Of course, we need to NOT be dependent on foreign oil. I’ve felt that was the logical course of action for years, but it we actually suceed in doing that, it will not stop terrorism.

]]> By: Paul http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/2006/11/09/pet-peeve/comment-page-1/#comment-1113 Paul Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:58:42 +0000 http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/blog/2006/11/09/419#comment-1113 Your essentially right about foreign oil - what I said was if EVERYONE stopped buying it from Islamic countries which is a pipe dream I know. Even so, if America can kick the habit that would remove one important point of potential leverage against us. Surely you can see that? Even Bush would agree with me on this one I think - lol Your essentially right about foreign oil – what I said was if EVERYONE stopped buying it from Islamic countries which is a pipe dream I know. Even so, if America can kick the habit that would remove one important point of potential leverage against us.
Surely you can see that? Even Bush would agree with me on this one I think – lol

]]> By: Roger http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/2006/11/09/pet-peeve/comment-page-1/#comment-1112 Roger Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:50:40 +0000 http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/blog/2006/11/09/419#comment-1112 Removing our reliance on foreign oil will NOT in ANY way stop terrorism. As far as the rest, there is an interesting set of posts I discovered by a guy who posts under the name The Skeptical Optimist. I haven't read them in detail yet because there looks to be a lot of info, but he certainly puts forth the idea of a "Going to the moon" national effort. http://www.optimist123.com/optimist/2006/10/energy_post_7_a.html That post is the last in a series of 7 that I want to read. The guy really seems to have his shit together. Removing our reliance on foreign oil will NOT in ANY way stop terrorism.

As far as the rest, there is an interesting set of posts I discovered by a guy who posts under the name The Skeptical Optimist. I haven’t read them in detail yet because there looks to be a lot of info, but he certainly puts forth the idea of a “Going to the moon” national effort. http://www.optimist123.com/optimist/2006/10/energy_post_7_a.html

That post is the last in a series of 7 that I want to read. The guy really seems to have his shit together.

]]> By: Paul http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/2006/11/09/pet-peeve/comment-page-1/#comment-1111 Paul Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:55:08 +0000 http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/blog/2006/11/09/419#comment-1111 America puts itself more in jeapordy by continued reliance on oil imports from this region. We must find an alternative. This will not directly address fundamental terrorism but it will put us in a stronger position. If everyone in the world stopped buying their oil the "bad guys" would lose revenue and fall back into the dark ages. If America develops the alternative energy solution(s) and sells them to the rest of the developed world we all win. I know you personally don't approve of government intervention in business and scientific but its got to be a better solution than the military one we've tried for the last 6 years. This problem trancends global economics and affects the very fabric of western society. America puts itself more in jeapordy by continued reliance on oil imports from this region. We must find an alternative. This will not directly address fundamental terrorism but it will put us in a stronger position. If everyone in the world stopped buying their oil the “bad guys” would lose revenue and fall back into the dark ages. If America develops the alternative energy solution(s) and sells them to the rest of the developed world we all win.

I know you personally don’t approve of government intervention in business and scientific but its got to be a better solution than the military one we’ve tried for the last 6 years.

This problem trancends global economics and affects the very fabric of western society.

]]> By: Roger http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/2006/11/09/pet-peeve/comment-page-1/#comment-1109 Roger Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:33:29 +0000 http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/blog/2006/11/09/419#comment-1109 I would love to leave this region alone. It's a waste of time and energy for a region that is stuck in middle ages. The problem is they won't leave us alone, the bastards. I heard a fragment of a discussion on Islamic fundamentalism on the radio last month, the person discussing this with the host was some expert of Islam. Don't ask me for details about the guy because I can't remember. What I DO remember is what he said about why these guys are dangerous. They have access to technology that is the result of an intellectual and spiritual renaissance that the western world went through. A renaissance which tempered the more radical strains of Christianity. Islam hasn't had this happen yet, so the current crop of nutballs have no historical understanding of the tools that it uses. Theres more to it as well, and as I remember it, It'll post. I would love to leave this region alone. It’s a waste of time and energy for a region that is stuck in middle ages. The problem is they won’t leave us alone, the bastards.

I heard a fragment of a discussion on Islamic fundamentalism on the radio last month, the person discussing this with the host was some expert of Islam. Don’t ask me for details about the guy because I can’t remember. What I DO remember is what he said about why these guys are dangerous. They have access to technology that is the result of an intellectual and spiritual renaissance that the western world went through. A renaissance which tempered the more radical strains of Christianity. Islam hasn’t had this happen yet, so the current crop of nutballs have no historical understanding of the tools that it uses. Theres more to it as well, and as I remember it, It’ll post.

]]> By: Paul http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/2006/11/09/pet-peeve/comment-page-1/#comment-1108 Paul Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:24:31 +0000 http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/blog/2006/11/09/419#comment-1108 Have Western powers EVER been able to keep this region stable? (not for long) Why do we collectively continue to beat our heads against that wall? There is a 3rd option beyond cut and run: Develop alternative energy for peace and prosperity. Have Western powers EVER been able to keep this region stable? (not for long)

Why do we collectively continue to beat our heads against that wall?

There is a 3rd option beyond cut and run:
Develop alternative energy for peace and prosperity.

]]> By: Roger http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/2006/11/09/pet-peeve/comment-page-1/#comment-1103 Roger Sat, 11 Nov 2006 19:47:16 +0000 http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/blog/2006/11/09/419#comment-1103 You all misinterpreted my comment about the oil. The world wouldn't lose the oil, rather, if the Sunnis gete it, the Shiites will get jealous and attack the Sunnis, and visa versa. It doesn't matter to me whether they do or not, really, because you're right, 10 percent or whatever is no big deal, especially when we have ANWR (LOL, he pokes the bee's nest), but if the goal is a stable region, you're not going to get it when one side gets the profits from the oil and the other side doesn't. That's all. You all misinterpreted my comment about the oil. The world wouldn’t lose the oil, rather, if the Sunnis gete it, the Shiites will get jealous and attack the Sunnis, and visa versa. It doesn’t matter to me whether they do or not, really, because you’re right, 10 percent or whatever is no big deal, especially when we have ANWR (LOL, he pokes the bee’s nest), but if the goal is a stable region, you’re not going to get it when one side gets the profits from the oil and the other side doesn’t. That’s all.

]]> By: Paul http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/2006/11/09/pet-peeve/comment-page-1/#comment-1102 Paul Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:30:53 +0000 http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/blog/2006/11/09/419#comment-1102 Oh and I'm betting the Turks will play nice seeing as how their government wants into the EU so bad. Why shouldn't there be a Kurdistan? Oh and I’m betting the Turks will play nice seeing as how their government wants into the EU so bad.

Why shouldn’t there be a Kurdistan?

]]> By: Paul http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/2006/11/09/pet-peeve/comment-page-1/#comment-1101 Paul Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:29:08 +0000 http://www.spasticmonkeys.com/blog/2006/11/09/419#comment-1101 And hello Jim! :) And hello Jim! :)

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